Comments on: A (not so) simple question: How many Mac users are there in the world? http://idaconcpts.com/2008/12/05/a-not-so-simple-question-how-many-mac-users-are-there-in-the-world/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=a-not-so-simple-question-how-many-mac-users-are-there-in-the-world Ideas and Concepts from Damian Davila Wed, 08 Feb 2012 02:30:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Matt http://idaconcpts.com/2008/12/05/a-not-so-simple-question-how-many-mac-users-are-there-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-26801 Matt Tue, 19 Jul 2011 20:45:25 +0000 http://idaconcpts.com/?p=413#comment-26801 I would think that 8.87% of visitors would be a percentage of the 160 million visitors per month - but that assumes things such as the 160 mil is unique visitors and that ALL Mac users visit at least one of those 40,000 websites in a given month. Yes Apple should have the best numbers of how many Macs have been sold - likely even a breakdown of how many would be abel to run OS X - or some particular version of OS X. If Apple collected some sort of serial number stamp or other unique identifier every time someone used the Apple Software Update function that might cover a huge percentage of Macs still alive. but would miss cases where one download is the served on a school network to 100 other machines for example - or one of my customers who had two iMacs that had not been updated in about 5 years (they have been now). So there may be no way to determine a real number - and if I have 5 Macs used by 4 people does that count as 5 or 4? Perhaps some sort of registry of Mac users - where each of us could go and post some small tidbit of info - but even that would likely miss a lot of folks. I would think that 8.87% of visitors would be a percentage of the 160 million visitors per month – but that assumes things such as the 160 mil is unique visitors and that ALL Mac users visit at least one of those 40,000 websites in a given month.

Yes Apple should have the best numbers of how many Macs have been sold – likely even a breakdown of how many would be abel to run OS X – or some particular version of OS X.

If Apple collected some sort of serial number stamp or other unique identifier every time someone used the Apple Software Update function that might cover a huge percentage of Macs still alive. but would miss cases where one download is the served on a school network to 100 other machines for example – or one of my customers who had two iMacs that had not been updated in about 5 years (they have been now).

So there may be no way to determine a real number – and if I have 5 Macs used by 4 people does that count as 5 or 4?

Perhaps some sort of registry of Mac users – where each of us could go and post some small tidbit of info – but even that would likely miss a lot of folks.

]]> By: Hultman http://idaconcpts.com/2008/12/05/a-not-so-simple-question-how-many-mac-users-are-there-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-2486 Hultman Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:58:39 +0000 http://idaconcpts.com/?p=413#comment-2486 Stealing "ideas" is far different than stealing someone's developed & Patented technology. The UI of the Mac was an "idea" of HP PARC that was SOLD to Jobs in a primitive form just like Gates bought the system that became MS-DOS from Intergalactic Trading (no fooling look it up). Both were purchased in their raw state for $50,000 each. Gates built the Evil Empire on his purchase & Jobs built the Mac on his. Both had to do lots of their own engineering, time & capital into the finished product & deservedly had/have Patents on that TECHNOLOGY. Contrast this with Windoze, Andriod,etc which are COPIES of Apple Technology. Stealing “ideas” is far different than stealing someone’s developed & Patented technology. The UI of the Mac was an “idea” of HP PARC that was SOLD to Jobs in a primitive form just like Gates bought the system that became MS-DOS from Intergalactic Trading (no fooling look it up). Both were purchased in their raw state for $50,000 each. Gates built the Evil Empire on his purchase & Jobs built the Mac on his. Both had to do lots of their own engineering, time & capital into the finished product & deservedly had/have Patents on that TECHNOLOGY. Contrast this with Windoze, Andriod,etc which are COPIES of Apple Technology.

]]> By: Jack http://idaconcpts.com/2008/12/05/a-not-so-simple-question-how-many-mac-users-are-there-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-2230 Jack Sat, 02 Jan 2010 04:50:34 +0000 http://idaconcpts.com/?p=413#comment-2230 You assume that all 6.6 billion people own a computer. The amount of people who access the internet is around 1,018,057,389 as of this summer. So your number of 0.57 billion, divided by 6.6 (just rounding), is 86,363,636 users, or 86 million. And NetApplications isn't all that reliable, either. I think 86 million is a more reasonable number. You assume that all 6.6 billion people own a computer. The amount of people who access the internet is around 1,018,057,389 as of this summer.

So your number of 0.57 billion, divided by 6.6 (just rounding), is 86,363,636 users, or 86 million. And NetApplications isn’t all that reliable, either.

I think 86 million is a more reasonable number.

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Thank you

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]]> By: damiandavilarojas http://idaconcpts.com/2008/12/05/a-not-so-simple-question-how-many-mac-users-are-there-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-117 damiandavilarojas Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:04:07 +0000 http://idaconcpts.com/?p=413#comment-117 Hello Jason, Thank you for your feedback. The idea about tracking the Apple Software Update sounds really good, let me see what I can find out. Did you look up any data? Are you on Twitter? I can be found at @idaconcpts and my company Twitter is @ilovephotos (I spent way more time on the company one that on my personal one). Cheers, Damian Hello Jason,

Thank you for your feedback.

The idea about tracking the Apple Software Update sounds really good, let me see what I can find out. Did you look up any data?

Are you on Twitter? I can be found at @idaconcpts and my company Twitter is @ilovephotos (I spent way more time on the company one that on my personal one).

Cheers,

Damian

]]> By: Jason Goldsmith http://idaconcpts.com/2008/12/05/a-not-so-simple-question-how-many-mac-users-are-there-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-118 Jason Goldsmith Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:05:27 +0000 http://idaconcpts.com/?p=413#comment-118 Well, the NetApplications numbers would give a market share of net connected Macs at about 14 million (160 million visitors * 8.87%). That would seem to be the most relevant number for your purposes if you are looking at the data for iLovePhotos.com. I would think that is a very low number as well based on the sales data above. The best number for net connected Macs would be available from Apple through their Apple Software Update. It would be easy to find out how many systems updated through that. Any number is going to be an estimate since there will be several overlapping groups that could result in double counting (Mac users who use PCs, Macs running something other than Mac OS, etc.) Well, the NetApplications numbers would give a market share of net connected Macs at about 14 million (160 million visitors * 8.87%). That would seem to be the most relevant number for your purposes if you are looking at the data for iLovePhotos.com. I would think that is a very low number as well based on the sales data above.

The best number for net connected Macs would be available from Apple through their Apple Software Update. It would be easy to find out how many systems updated through that.

Any number is going to be an estimate since there will be several overlapping groups that could result in double counting (Mac users who use PCs, Macs running something other than Mac OS, etc.)

]]> By: damiandavilarojas http://idaconcpts.com/2008/12/05/a-not-so-simple-question-how-many-mac-users-are-there-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-119 damiandavilarojas Tue, 09 Dec 2008 23:44:46 +0000 http://idaconcpts.com/?p=413#comment-119 Update: After researching and researching, here is my conclusion: Everybody wants to play it safe by not contradicting the "official numbers" that Mac releases, which state that the user base of Mac should be around 30 million now. However, everybody agrees with the 8.78% market share number from NetApplications (even Forbes). So, a lot of my contacts have suggested to use that number and find out the number of PCs in the world (some people suggest only using the last 6 years, for some reason that I cannot really understand). Nonetheless, according to Forrester Research, the world should arrive to about 1 billion of PCs by the end of 2008. Sources: http://www.cbc.ca/news/story/2007/06/12/tech-billion-pcsusers.html http://www.forrester.com/Research/Document/Excerpt/0,7211,42496,00.html http://www.techworld.com/news/index.cfm?NewsID=9119 So using 1 billion PCs and a market share of 8.78%, I think that it would be safe to assume that the total number of Mac users should be around 87.8 million by the end of this year. What do you think? Update:

After researching and researching, here is my conclusion:

Everybody wants to play it safe by not contradicting the “official numbers” that Mac releases, which state that the user base of Mac should be around 30 million now. However, everybody agrees with the 8.78% market share number from NetApplications (even Forbes). So, a lot of my contacts have suggested to use that number and find out the number of PCs in the world (some people suggest only using the last 6 years, for some reason that I cannot really understand).

Nonetheless, according to Forrester Research, the world should arrive to about 1 billion of PCs by the end of 2008.

Sources:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/story/2007/06/12/tech-billion-pcsusers.html
http://www.forrester.com/Research/Document/Excerpt/0,7211,42496,00.html
http://www.techworld.com/news/index.cfm?NewsID=9119

So using 1 billion PCs and a market share of 8.78%, I think that it would be safe to assume that the total number of Mac users should be around 87.8 million by the end of this year.

What do you think?

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